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« poslato: 02 Јул 2007, 19:01:22 »

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105119
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395303
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/22336

 I ja imam isti problem na 2 od 3 laptopa sa svakom verzijom ubuntu-a od 6.06 nadalje. Ovo ljudi ne izmisljaju i mislim da je katastrofa. Najgore sto izgleda nikako da se udje u trag uzroku, izgleda da je to kernel ili powernowd, ali developeri jos nisu rekli zadnju rijec.
Ovo je za notebook-e katastrofa
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« Odgovor #1 poslato: 03 Јул 2007, 09:30:35 »

Nisam bas siguran koliko je ovo u stvari bug. Nemam Ubuntu, koristim Debian, ali verujem da nema velike razlike. Stvar je u tome da Linux out of the box ne prepoznaje senzore za temp na ploci. Na samom pocetku trebas instalirati lm-sensors, pa zatim pokrenuti pwmconfig, onda ce ti se poceti vrteti cooler, mada ce ti i dalje prijavljlivati da je broj obrtaja nula. Na mom laptopu se desavaju slicne stvari, doduse pod punim opterecenjem kada mi ne radi cooler temperatura se u ove letnje dane dize i do 80C, a kada ukljucim cooler, temperatura ne prelazi nekih 55C.
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« Odgovor #2 poslato: 03 Јул 2007, 09:50:55 »


 Mislim da jeste bug.Razlog za  to , a vecina misli isto,  je kombinacija powernowd i ubuntu kernala. Npr, kernel boot parametar pci=noacpi rjesava problem, ali je iskljucenje acpi-a za notebook katastrofa, baterija brzo curi, kontrola napona cpu i frekvencija ne radi i sl. Slicno je i ako se stopira/ukloni powernowd. U tim slucajevima bar je smanjeno zagrijavanje. Nisam bio lijen vec sam na sva 3 noteboka instalirao za probu Mandrivu, Suse, PCLinuxOS, SAM, Dreamlinux, i nigdje se taj problem ne ispoljava. Zaobilazne metode koje par developera predlaze su prosto NEBULOZNE, obican user ne smije da se smara sa takvim preocedurama, overheat bi barem trebalo da je rijesen out of the box, sto i jeste na drugim distribucijama. A taman sam se navikao na ubuntu na desktopu i mislim da je jako dobar, ali ovo...A kupujem prvi notebook u zivotu,,,
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« Odgovor #3 poslato: 03 Јул 2007, 09:59:30 »

Jesi li probao sa cpufreqd ili cpudyn?
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« Odgovor #4 poslato: 03 Јул 2007, 10:30:41 »

Na mom laptopu sam drzao jedino Debian(prvo sarge, sad etch), Slackware, Ubuntu i par live distroa, najcesce Knoppix. E sad, nijedan, mi nije out of the box imao podrsku za fan-control, niti je imao podesene temperaturne senzore, sve sam morao sam da radim. Ne znam za ostale distroe tipa Fedora, Mandriva ili SuSE, njih sam odavno batalio.
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« Odgovor #5 poslato: 30 Јул 2007, 17:39:03 »

Koristim kubuntu feisty 7.04 i BackTrack2 na Asus A6km laptopu, i nemam nikakav problem shto se tiche freq. scaling. jedini problem mi se pojavio kada sam hteo umesto kde-guidance-powermanager-a da instaliram kpowersave. izgubio sam frequency scaling i sve postavke. Ali ! ispostavilo se da je kriv bug u kde-guidance-powermanager-u
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/89750 Posle sam namestio sve ruchno i sve radi kako shto treba.

How to enable your CPU's Power Saving/Frequency Scaling features
Open a Terminal window (in Applications > Accessories) and type,

cat /proc/cpuinfo

Look for the reference to "cpu MHz" and compare it to the official MHz of your processor. If it is considerably lower, e.g. a 2.0 GHz processor reporting as 1.0 GHz, then the power-save frequency scaling is probably already working. You can further test this by running a cpu intensive process, e.g. glxgears, and then retesting the cpu speed -- if it has increased to the official MHz then the automatic scaling is already working. (Note: the instructions below can also allow you to manually set the cpu speed.)

    * Step 1: Enable BIOS Support

Enter your BIOS at boot and make sure both ACPI and Cool'n'Quiet (AMD) or SpeedStep (Intel) are enabled. Some BIOSes may not have option at all. If that is the case it is probably enabled by default. Other BIOSes may have the option but it is listed as another name altogether. If that is the case check your BIOS manual for more info.

    * Step 2: Remove Userspace Scaling Software

powernowd

sudo apt-get remove powernowd

cpudyn

sudo apt-get remove cpudyn

    * Step 3: Install CPU Module

Identify your cpu type by running the command

cat /proc/cpuinfo

You can also Check the following links AMD CPU Chart - [[2]] Intel CPU Chart - [[3]]

AMD Sempron/Athlon/MP ( K7 )

Socket Types: A, Slot A

sudo modprobe powernow-k7

AMD Duron/Sempron/Athlon/Opteron 64 ( K8 )

Socket Types: 754, 939, 940, S1 ( 638 ), AM2 ( 940 ), F ( 1207 )

sudo modprobe powernow-k8

Intel Core Duo

sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino

Intel Pentium M

sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino

Intel Pentium 4

sudo modprobe p4_clockmod

Others (Unknown)

I'm not entirely sure which cpus are supported using this module. If your cpu doesn't work with one of the above methods try this one.

sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq

    * Step 4: Scaling Modules

sudo modprobe cpufreq_conservative
sudo modprobe cpufreq_ondemand
sudo modprobe cpufreq_powersave
sudo modprobe cpufreq_stats
sudo modprobe cpufreq_userspace

    * Step 5: Testing/Configuration

Show Available Governors

cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors

You should see output similar to

powersave conservative ondemand performance

    * Step 6: Load Modules at Boot

Add the following lines to the end of /etc/modules

cpufreq_conservative
cpufreq_ondemand
cpufreq_powersave
cpufreq_stats
cpufreq_userspace
Also add the module you selected in Step 3

    * Step 7: Install cpufrequtils

This is a simple, effective tool for using the modules from the command line.

sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils

Test that it's working.

cpufreq-info

    * Step 8: Select a governor

The different governors control how the CPU speed is scaled. Your choices are:

ondemand

CPU frequency is scaled based on load.

conservative

The CPUfreq governor "conservative", much like the "ondemand" governor, sets the CPU depending on the current usage. It differs in behaviour in that it gracefully increases and decreases the CPU speed rather than jumping to max speed the moment there is any load on the CPU. This behaviour more suitable in a battery powered environment.

performance

CPU only runs at max frequency regardless of load.

powersave

CPU only runs at min frequency regardless of load.

See [[4]] for more details.

I typically use ondemand. You get a very slight performance hit and save a lot of power (and produce a lot less heat when idle).

Try it out:

cpufreq-set -g ondemand

On systems with more than one CPU you need to repeat the last command for every other CPU you have with specifying the parameter -c (CPU). To set the governor for the second CPU write:

cpufreq-set -c 1 -g ondemand

To see how many CPUs you have type:

ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/

    * Step 9: Configure cpufrequtils to automatically set this governor on boot

Edit the file /etc/default/cpufrequtils. Change the line:

ENABLE="false"

to

ENABLE="true"
 
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